“Compared to American companies, New Zealand companies are relying far too much on founders and on highly paid sales executives, and not nearly enough on all the modern online marketing and sales tools that exist.” Discussion between Newstalk ZB host Larry Williams, and Pattrick Smellie from Buisnessdesk. This transcript is taken from ‘Williams means business’ – Newstalk ZB, broadcast on 6.25pm, 24 November 2017.